WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Saul Bollox 1:56 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
I thought religion was for the inadequate, the unintelligent and the clinically insane.

Gentile 1:51 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
100 peace be with yous

AfM 1:42 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
Lily Hammer 1:39 Wed Nov 25

What? Like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvnrGzo8ljI

Lily Hammer 1:39 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
AfM 1:17 Wed Nov 25

I'm only an armchair anthropologist, but the little I've read about certainly big relgions suggest it is the same story told and retold again and again. Rebranded again and again if you like. Egyptian, Greek, Old Testament, all seem to be a similar story to teh Sumerian stories, which, I think, is the oldest version yet known....until someone translates the stuff that was found in Eastern Europe (Danube area?) which apparently might be even older.


Now, going back to the Sumerian stories, their Gods, with an "s" came fromn the skies on flaming chariots that left smokey trails in the sky and made a terrible noise. Interesting vision for, what, 10,000years ago.

If someone had such technology so long ago, it doesn't mean it is life from another planet. It is a interesating thing to cvontemplate, if such a civilastion could leave no trace whatsoever, other than gospels of observers, who may have been tripping their tits off at the time anyway.


On a certain level, I'd have to laugh if a "God" flew back down to earth one day and said "Right! Which of you cunts stopped believing in me just because I was off on an intergalactic beano for a few millenia? Oh ye of little faith."

AfM 1:37 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
i-Ron 1:11 Wed Nov 25

In your defence, plenty of places reportted that as a black and white thing, wrongly.

If science has taught me anything (and it's taught me a huge amount), it's that absolute certainty is a route to being wrong. Unfortunately, that is so well understood among scientists that it leads to 2 problems:

1. People think science is less reliable than more fervently certain worldviews.

2. I can, in general, omit words like "i think" and "it sugggests" and "generally" or "the trend is such that" because I am used to conversing with people who understand those things without them being said. It can have tragic consequences on message boards.

Hammer and Pickle 1:22 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
I especially like the one about Shiva and his missus Pavarti playing dice.

AfM 1:17 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
mashed, how do the creation stories suggest aliens?
...apart from Mormons and Scientologists

AfM 1:16 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
Hi Surface!

He said they tied in weirdly, not because they copied from each other or come from a very basic human precept of how things start, common across humanity. That's not weird. It's normal.

mashed in maryland 1:16 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:11 Wed Nov 25

cholo 1:12 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
Mashed gets his history from The History Channel.


http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/I-am-not-saying.jpg

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:11 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
AfM 12:46 Wed Nov 25

'I'm fascinated by all those though so could you direct me to the stories form the ancient world which weirdly tie in with each other?'

Almost all the creation myths.

i-Ron 1:11 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
I like Mashed, he's kind of inquisitive, but kind of stubborn at the same time.

I remember years ago being like that and trying to tell AfM about bacteria and living organisms found frozen on Meteors or something...it was black and white for me based on what I'd read / seen at the time.

Turns out I wasn't exactly right and was taught a lesson by AfM, and Manor messaged me laughing at my attempt to take him on.

Made me change my style and cut out the stubbornness.

mashed in maryland 1:11 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
I argued with you about this before cholo and in the end you said I was right.

CBA now.

mashed in maryland 1:11 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
Evidence of humans yeah. The odd fossilised skeleton.

Not of our day to day lives.

Do you honestly think that the fossils dug up in the last 200 years cover absolutely EVERY SINGLE life form on the earth during the dinosaur times?

cholo 1:10 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
That's not evidence for your assertion, it's just an argument from ignorance.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

AfM 1:09 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
mashed in maryland 1:07 Wed Nov 25

I think it's safe to say that in 65 million years, there will be evidence of humanity.

AfM 1:08 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
mashed in maryland 12:53 Wed Nov 25

OK but I'm genuinely interested. Could you give an example or two of these ancient stories which tie in together weirdly, thereby suggesting aliens have visited Earth?

Evidence is evidence. What it is evidence of down to science, not supposition.

mashed in maryland 1:07 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
CBA to type out everything.

Like I said I just think it's far more likely than not.

In 65 million years from now do you honestly think there'd be any evidence of you, your computer, your car, your house, or anything else?

Or just a minute possibility that your bones may be fossilised.

cholo 1:04 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
Mashed

You've come out with this weird stuff before, where's your evidence to back up this assertion?

mashed in maryland 12:59 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
Don't get me wrong I ain't on about Roswell or any of that shit but I reckon it's far more likely than not that millions of years before us there were civilisations and stuff that we don't know about.

cholo 12:59 Wed Nov 25
Re: What's your favourite religion?
Best science based quote ever, stick to this and you wont go far wrong...


"what can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchens%27s_razor

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